{"id":18498,"date":"2009-12-27T19:59:49","date_gmt":"2009-12-28T03:59:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/?p=18498"},"modified":"2009-12-27T21:23:47","modified_gmt":"2009-12-28T05:23:47","slug":"concerns-in-marketplace-over-authenticating-movie-prop-slates-clapperboards-update-4-terminator-3-case-study-continued","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/2009\/12\/27\/concerns-in-marketplace-over-authenticating-movie-prop-slates-clapperboards-update-4-terminator-3-case-study-continued\/","title":{"rendered":"Concerns in Marketplace Over Authenticating Movie Prop Slates &#038; Clapperboards: Update 4 (Terminator 3 Case Study Continued)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/2009\/12\/27\/concerns-in-marketplace-over-authenticating-movie-prop-slates-clapperboards-update-4-terminator-3-case-study-continued\/\" target=\"_self\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18482\" title=\"Kelvin-Wise-Ivey-Slates-Prop-Store-London-Clapperboard-Case-Study-Terminator-T3-x380\" src=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Ivey-Slates-Prop-Store-London-Clapperboard-Case-Study-Terminator-T3-x380.jpg\" alt=\"Kelvin-Wise-Ivey-Slates-Prop-Store-London-Clapperboard-Case-Study-Terminator-T3-x380\" width=\"380\" height=\"147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Ivey-Slates-Prop-Store-London-Clapperboard-Case-Study-Terminator-T3-x380.jpg 380w, https:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Ivey-Slates-Prop-Store-London-Clapperboard-Case-Study-Terminator-T3-x380-300x116.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 380px) 100vw, 380px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is an update to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/2009\/12\/27\/concerns-in-marketplace-over-authenticating-movie-prop-slates-clapperboards-update-3-terminator-3-case-study\/\" target=\"_blank\">the <em>Terminator 3<\/em> case study article published earlier today<\/a>.\u00a0 I had an opportunity to speak with Kevin Ivey of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iveyslates.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Ivey Slates<\/a> on the phone, and he was very helpful in providing some additional information, opinion, and clarity following his review of the article about clapperboards used in <em>Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Collectors have raised concerns about the authenticity of slates and clapperboards circulating in the marketplace. Previous articles examined clapperboards from <em>Quantum of Solace<\/em> as a case study.  The feature published earlier today examined a series of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Key-Terminator-3-Clapperboard-Slate-Comparison-Analysis-A-marked-numbered.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">significant and consistent differences<\/a> between styles of clapperboards attributed to <em>Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines <\/em>(&#8220;T3&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>Kevin Ivey of Ivey Slates granted me permission to relay the details of our phone conversation for publication in this update article.\u00a0 He reviewed the photos and he claimed that <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">all<\/span> of the slates depicted in the prior article were made by him.\u00a0 He explained that his business was still new when he produced the slates for T3 and that he used two different machines to make them, which is why <em>&#8220;they look a little different<\/em>&#8220;.\u00a0 However, the three examples which collectors claim originated from Kelvin Wise are consistently of one type and style, which differs from what is seen in the &#8220;on set&#8221; photo, with the crew gift style slates, and compared to the two examples depicted on the IveySlates.com website.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Ivey stated that the rainbow-colored clapper top on one of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Terminator-3-Clapperboard-Slate-Example-C.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">collector-owned examples<\/a> depicted in the previous article is not one of his.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Ivey confirmed that the slate <a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Prop-Store-of-London-Terminator-3-The-Rise-Of-The-Machines-Clapperboard-Photo.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">with &#8220;2002&#8221; etched into it<\/a> (owned by Mario Kirner) as seen in the comparison is indeed merely a crew gift and was not used on set.\u00a0 He said that the production ordered 55 crew gift slates of this style in total.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Ivey stated that he produced approximately 11 slates which depicted an entirely different &#8220;T3&#8221;-style logo that was abandoned (can be seen at an extreme angle in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Terminator-3-T3-On-Set-Production-Photo-Clapperboards-Slates.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">the &#8220;on set&#8221; photo<\/a> published in the last article, behind Arnold Schwarzenegger), in addition to those featuring the more familiar logo type.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Ivey confirmed that he did in the past sell slates &#8211; including T3 slates &#8211; to Kelvin Wise, but that he no longer does business with him due to his having perceived &#8220;<em>red flags<\/em>&#8221; in their dealings.<\/p>\n<p>I asked Mr. Ivey about the writing on the slates that collectors claim originated from Kelvin Wise (examples <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Terminator-3-Clapperboard-Slate-Example-A.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">1<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Terminator-3-Clapperboard-Slate-Example-B.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Kelvin-Wise-Terminator-3-Clapperboard-Slate-Example-C.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">3<\/a><\/strong>), and if it appears to be legitimate production writing (i.e. Roll, Scene, Take, Date).\u00a0 Mr. Ivey said that the writing on those slates is <em>&#8220;BS&#8221;<\/em> and &#8220;<em>you can quote me on that<\/em>&#8220;.\u00a0 Again, Mr. Ivey is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0412385\/\" target=\"_blank\">a credited camera assistant on <em>Terminator 3<\/em><\/a>, and would therefore be very familiar with how writing should appear on slates used in the production.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Ivey stated that he did not produce any slates for any James Bond films, including <em>Quantum of Solace<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I would like to thank Mr. Ivey for taking the time to read the article and share information with collectors and readers of the Original Prop Blog.<\/p>\n<p>All related articles can be found via the link below:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/category\/market-watch\/clapperboardsslates-in-the-marketplace\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18294 aligncenter\" title=\"Original-Prop-Blog-Researching-Clapperboards-in-the-Marketplace-Portal\" src=\"http:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Original-Prop-Blog-Researching-Clapperboards-in-the-Marketplace-Portal.jpg\" alt=\"Original-Prop-Blog-Researching-Clapperboards-in-the-Marketplace-Portal\" width=\"500\" height=\"348\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Original-Prop-Blog-Researching-Clapperboards-in-the-Marketplace-Portal.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.originalprop.com\/blog\/dylsoagh\/2009\/12\/Original-Prop-Blog-Researching-Clapperboards-in-the-Marketplace-Portal-300x208.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Further information will be published as it becomes available.\u00a0 If anyone has any additional information or concerns about clapperboards in the marketplace, please contact me.<\/p>\n<p>Jason DeBord<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is an update to the Terminator 3 case study article published earlier today.\u00a0 I had an opportunity to speak with Kevin Ivey of Ivey Slates on the phone, and he was very helpful in providing some additional information, opinion, and clarity following his review of the article about clapperboards used in Terminator 3: Rise 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